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  1. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I thought Claws and MTR both played very well with MTR being the town MVP.
  2. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    scum mazer is big mad i took away his toy
  3. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    llettuce said:
    I mean maybe buy pretty sure vesper just wanted to live at least a day for her 1st game
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    sure, thats possible. I'm not hard pushing that but it was my original thought.
  4. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    like I said, I had stopped pushing Void along time ago, Void was still pushing me.
  5. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    and i wouldn't have wanted jarrod over GC either lol
  6. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Mazer said:
    Ah, so you only thought that vesper might have did the massroleblock because wanted to live.
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    you are still getting it wrong. on purpose? im saying that scum used the 1x mass rb (b/c it made the most sense to) and Vesper, being a 1x mass rb, wanted to live d1 so she could use it n1
  7. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Mazer said:
    Void also showed willingness. You did not listen to anything void said.
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    no he really didn't. I had stopped pushing void a long time ago. He would not stop
  8. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Mazer said:
    I might have to go back to your super insightful "THE REASON SCUM DID THE MASSRB WAS BECAUSE.....VESPER REALLY WANTED TO LIVE!@!"
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    this is also not something I said. What I said is if Vesper is the 1x mass rb then her proclamations that she just really wanted to live for at least a day kinda made me think she was that. If you want to argue that that was a bad take then go for it but if you want to mock me at least get it factually correct.
  9. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Claws said:
    thats my title jeez trying to take everything away from me
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    we are socialist now. the title belongs to us all now.
  10. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I don't think I ever suggested caito
  11. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I mean, if there is a few scum in gc, you, tidley, bn and drey then yeah I'd say I did good.

    I'm not really sure why it was ok for Void to misread me and try to get me killed over GC but if I don't ant that headache around oh I'm so bad.
  12. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    village idiot
  13. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    no, my gimmick is to steal everyone elses gimmick
  14. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    rude
  15. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    is this caito guy like a VI or something?
  16. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    yeah that dumb town that you are sheeping. lol

    also, at the time I was tied with GC at 4 votes. I wouldn't be surprised if BN voted me or we remained tied and I was random lynched over GC
  17. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Mazer said:
    And you're a legitimately an awesome gamerunner who knows people's tendencies and how they think. I really can't believe you'd be this off for Badger as a gamerunner or on me on my absolutes.
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    ???????
  18. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    6 day killa
  19. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    void was pushing town (me) and prob town reading scum (mazer) he had to go.
  20. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I mean, Void threw down a bullshit case on me that I knew was wrong so naturally I thought he was a little scummy. Thats kinda basic stuff. Like town misreading each other and they think that each other is scum.

    I had not been pushing VK's lynch for awhile now and I showed some great restraint. Its just that Void would not stop and accept that he was wrong
  21. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    his vote was on me
  22. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    im not sure yet, if he did flip town then theres a good chance i get lynched on d3

    also, I don't think its quite fair to say that I was vocal about wanting void lynched since I hadn't been pushing there for awhile now

    Void had to go, he was trying to fuck over town
  23. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    the tl:dr version is that Void's play was so bad that he needed to go. The most coherent thing he said all game was that town can win without him.
  24. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    gc is scum b/c he blatantly lied about scumreading catio

    tidley is scum since she's voting me over gc for a reasons that she had never once called me out on.

    mazer is scum b/c he's trying hard as F to get a not GC lynch while fence sitting on GC (i mean i know he's voting there now but...he did spend eons trying to get jarrod killed)

    I think BN is scum b/c he tmi'd me and void as TvT. I do sorta like his peter vote so maybe I'm not so gung ho

    I think drey is scum


    but GC today,
  25. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Did the mafia plans of using the double voter get ruined?
  26. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    imagine being so bad that you had to die
  27. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    VoidKitten said:
    I'm saying you were okay with votes going onto me.

    Why now not me and on GC instead?

    Would you not be okay if I were yeeted anymore?
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    look you seemed frustrated that you were getting votes and if you didn't feel like playing I was pretty ok wit that. I really don't care about you and you might need to go anyway. I mean maybe if I played it differently and there was a gc lynch and maybe you'll listen to my reads tomorrow if you are town but whats done is done.
  28. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    GrumpyCat said:
    I never called Caito scum.
    I said I could vote Caito with you. You didnt vote Caito, offer is out of the window now.
    Stop being so mainipulative
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    rock meets hard place said:
    but I guess you did backtrack later

    now we know why you killed psycho
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    rock meets hard place said:
    though you asked me if I wanted "to get scum"

    then sorta call him a wolf here
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    GrumpyCat said:
    Could you please add everything we know so far in one post? It would help a lot.
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    rock meets hard place said:
    but even if we ignore the times where you clearly called catio scum, your offer to vote a random guy that you are now claiming that you weren't scumreading...isn't a townie thing to do
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    rock meets hard place said:
    like if im being generous here, we could argue that 707 means that you weren't scum reading the guy but then you why would 709 and 712 exist if you no longer thought he was scum?
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    like how can anyone think GC is town after this conversation?

    someone explain why I'm wrong here
  29. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    i have been pushing GC for ever you clown
  30. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I wanted to be purple b/c i am the king!
  31. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    everyone voting void should switch to GC
  32. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    in a future world, GC has flipped scum, why do I not immediately want your head, Mazer?
  33. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    VoidKitten said:
    Oh no. I think I am correct. The horror.
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    i mean, if you are town and getting ran up it means people don't see your posting as townie and thats something you should think about trying to improve. or maybe you just aren't town and thats why you feel you did fine. your reads are also terrible if you are town.
  34. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    1. Peter Griffin
    2. Randolph
    3. Caito
    6. Val the Moofia Boss
    7. Jarrod1983
    8. MTR
    9. FutureHold (but not ForgottenHold)
    10.Mazer
    11. Claws
    12. Lletuce
    13. morrison
    14. VoidKitten
    15. Vesper
    16. Dreyski
    17. Listo95
    18. “Grumpycat”
    19. Tildey
    20. LemonDemonGirl
    21. rock meets hard place
    22. Diva
    69/99. BN

    here, i made it color coded 4 you guys
  35. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    VoidKitten said:
    I am town and may actually be awful. But I don’t need to check how I approach the game. I am usually pretty successful. Maybe not this time.
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    the hubris from you and ng complains about me
  36. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    errr town
  37. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    how anyone can think that GC is scum after he claimed to not call catio scum and I clearly pointed out where he did
  38. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    if you were town you were fucking awful and you really need to look at yourself and how you approach this game.
  39. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    dtop trying to sell people on mymislynch void
  40. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Something something gc is scum but I guess I'm ok with void going over him
  41. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Tbf, it's all town voting you while scum are trying to protect you
  42. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Respice finem​

  43. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Will Ferrell Goodbye GIF by filmeditor
  44. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    like if im being generous here, we could argue that 707 means that you weren't scum reading the guy but then you why would 709 and 712 exist if you no longer thought he was scum?
  45. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    but even if we ignore the times where you clearly called catio scum, your offer to vote a random guy that you are now claiming that you weren't scumreading...isn't a townie thing to do
  46. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    we know that crumpy cat is scum

    void is big mad

    water is wet

    and pineapple doesn't belong on pizza
  47. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    GrumpyCat said:
    Alright do you want to vote caito get scum and make me confirmed town then?
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    though you asked me if I wanted "to get scum"
    GrumpyCat said:
    In an ordinary mafia game I wouldnt care about Catio wolf world that much.
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    then sorta call him a wolf here
  48. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    GrumpyCat said:
    Got to be Caito no?
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    but I guess you did backtrack later
    GrumpyCat said:
    Because abbis law is true and real. Except Psycho said that doest apply and he was town so we should honor his will. Oh no maybe i dont know who scum is on d2. Shame.
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    now we know why you killed psycho
  49. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    are you trying to mock me or?
  50. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    love me some ote counts
  51. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    don't vote me again void
  52. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    honestly, that's kind of a bad reason to town read void.

    Void isn't town b/c town doesn't go "look at how confirmed town I am, I had posts in my discord server that prove it!" I think he hard/soft claimed 3p when he was saying that he wasn't teamed and that's why he was so afraid of getting modkilled. I think he's intentionally town reading scum so he doesn't get shot. i.e. mazor

    I can't tell if Bn is just tripping over his words or if I repeatedly keep catching him in a lie/contradiction. Though both him and Drey going "oh scum are sitting back" seems like a projection.

    I guess it's not impossible that I'm wrong on Jarrod but I think Mazor looks sorta awful for trying to push a counter to grumpy, assuming that grumpy is scum.

    I was nodding along and I was thinking that "Well yeah, maybe Tidley is scum" and I think the reason for the town read is awful but I do sorta like her last post about Grumpy unless scum are starting to distance from him.
  53. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I think I'd be ok with throwing BN off a tower, I just hate how tunneled VK is and how much of a hypocrite he is unless he's scum
  54. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    if Void was scum and BN/I were t/t then he's effectively pushing for dual mislynches
  55. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Do you think its fair to say that she (and listo and MTR and whomever) should put in a little more effort in solving even though its *d1 or just wait until there are info?
  56. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    im wary of void pushing the rock/bn dichotomy
  57. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I think we should do grumpy or Catio today
  58. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I don't think my Catio read/reaction and my, I'll just call it a scum read, on Vesper is an apple: apple comparison.

    Catio posted 3 times d1. Pretty null stuff. At this point, he was a non descrip lurker.

    I started pushing Grumpy and after he threw a hissy fit, I had to ask him. He wasn't being proactive here, I had to ask him who was scum. He said "oh abbi's law says its catio"

    I mean, ok? I still think it's a fallacy but it's deff worked in the past. Although it is GC's scum MO to push for lurkers so I did feel like his lite push on Catio could mean Catio was town. GC did argue that Catio's scum flip makes him town. If they were both scum would he bus here?

    What are everyone's opinions on GC calling Catio scum but not (refusing to?) vote(ing) there?

    Dude comes in and votes me for whatever reason

    Is he bad town? Is he scum with a semi-opportunistic vote? IDK, it's all WIFOM.

    I realize that I could be wrong on Vesper but I wasn't a huge fan of her 192 and 291. I just, idk. Claiming votes on her were rude in 192 is like... weird. She doesn't seem dumb to me so I think she knew it wasn't a lynch. And then 291 she says she'll prob be dead when it was a dice roll with a 33% probability of death that no one (apparently except for Void) knew for certain.

    Like am I the only that side eyed these posts? I mean maybe they were supposed to be trolling and I just think trolling is a bit scummy, I guess.

    she did come in today and said she didn't know that she wouldn't have died. So she thought it was a lynch? The reason that I don't really like this is b/c I at least, I think BN did too...told her she wasn't being lynched.

    She also argued that she's not being coached b/c if she were she'd look like she knew what she was doing. Which I guess "confirms" ^ but I'm just a little skeptical.

    There hasn't really been any hunting or pushing or that much responding on game events which I realize is she's "new" and this site is much more night focused, at least IMO so there's not as much scum hunting.

    but I don't think you can really compare someone that I had been side-eyeing for ^ reasons and then some rando voting for me who is only getting pushed since he's a CW to Grumpy
  59. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    prob
  60. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Why are you not bad town for scum reading town?
  61. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    So just for the record, you've scum read town and town read 3p. And you are saying my reads are bad?
  62. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    hey Void, your d1 push was on me. Can you think of any reason why scum would want you around?

    (if I assume you are town)
  63. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Blind Ninja said:
    Yet the time you were scum, called me scum d1...

    So dont act like you catch me. You twist my words to fit what you want to say.
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    yes, I thought you were an EZ hedge but that doesn't really invalidate my point. You said that I always call you scum. I countered with "when I was town and you were town I didn't."
  64. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    maybe this site does it differently, but in all my experience with doublevoters, you don't have a choice. You just vote and its auto 2 votes.

    now I was scum that could make myself or others a dv.

    but idk, just not in love with the argument that vk wouldn't be obvious if he had a role that he can't control, unless he specifically is that role from the other gme
  65. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    you know the one time that we were both town? i didn't scum read you
  66. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I've never twisted your words BN, you say that all the time when I catch you.
  67. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    he could still TYPE that and it wasn't genuine and we knew his role/part of the role. Though imo you should like not post anything but VCs or atleast thats my mod mentality
  68. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    There was only a 33% chance to roll death so it didn't make a ton of sense, imo, to keep moaning on about dying when the chance was slimmer and there wasn't any evidence of it being death over something else. She isn't hunting, but I guess a lot aren't cation is at least voting
  69. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    In fairness, I've been questioning vespers townie for a bit now before cation even posted today
  70. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Prob, yes
  71. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Yeah but I never really said cation can't be scum, stop being so manipulative
  72. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Cation is doing something, even if it's nonsense. Vesper is just posting to look active, imo. Also I'm still a bit ??? over her d1. If you guys think cation is scum then vote him but you and so many others seem allergic to voting
  73. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    No I want to vote gc, wich I am.
  74. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Prob bc she isn't doing anything but you could say that for most of the thread
  75. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Assuming that the nbc ex isn't an npc, you could still have that convo and be scum.
  76. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Also I'm voting gc and calling BN and drey and vesper scum so it's not like I'm just fixated on you or anything. You on the other hand, seem fixated on telling us how townie you are
  77. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Are you talking about how he confirmed your convo?
  78. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    if there are 7 scum and void is a dv thats 8 votes. All it takes is 3 votes from town on town and scum can control the lynch.

    like why even have a day phase? just give everyone a vig shot
  79. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    VoidKitten said:
    Now that he has shown up, do you still feel this way?
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    maybe. Wouldn't really put it past him to come in and throw down a vote based on something that I never did and so it's not like he'd be the first scum to throw down a nonsensical vote

    Long term, I don't think it makes a ton of sense b/c if I were to get lynched or nked then my town flip would put some pressure on him, and while his argument would be "I just didn't want to read another post" I'm not sure that would keep him from the chopping block.

    Another take is that he's actually using his vote and maybe the only people that are voting are town.

    I know that in the past I've been incredulous to a lack of wagon formation but I don't really remember a lack of voting being this bad.

    My worry here is that mafia did in fact start with 8 which means they have 7 and 1-2 3ps means a 14-15 town split. With 2 dead there could be only 11 other town and I doubt the 12 of
    us can really come together. So I wouldn't be surprised if Drey and BN are like projecting scum telling us that they are hanging back.
  80. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    I think everyone has posted except lettuce and peter Griffin. I mean sure, I agree that there are probably less active scum but that's like every mafia game.
  81. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    ?????
  82. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    so I guess Caito is claiming scum? idk
  83. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    ????????
  84. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    to kinda plagiarize from jarrod, I think its very possible that lora isn't the only scum lora voter
  85. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    ngl, im kinda disappointed that you said you were gonna iso us 3 and your analyst is "I like everyone that's active" In fairness, being active is the best way to get town read and I do understand that most players will town read active players and scum read lurkers and while maybe thats fine for d2 I'd like to see a little more meat
  86. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    you can and I am I guess, make the same argument that grumpy is scummy for calling Catio scum but not voting there. I mean, I know he's invoking "abbi's law" but Catio is just a lurker and last time I caught grumpy he was just like "oh lets vote out this random lurker"
  87. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    My push on Void is sorta "OMGUS" I think. I think his reasons to scumread me are bs and he's intentionally lying about my d1 contributions. I don't like his claim that he's fully gung ho on me but is being cagey and won't vote me. I also don't really like how he's claiming that he was scumreading Lora but his vote was very vague. If Void had died I don't think anyone would have gotten "void scum reads lora" The only time he made it clear who he was scumreading he never showed his work. Why was he assuming that he'd make the night?

    don't really think 501/505 are really the reactions of town.
  88. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    what do you mean "even rock"?
  89. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    you are so convinced he's scum you didn't even vote there?
  90. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    While it's not impossible that he's just lurk scum I would be extremely skeptical of a wagon on a random lurker. If you guys end up voting him out then fine but I think there are better votes.
  91. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    so if you subscribe to abbis law then why is it silly t think you are scum? if catio is town then doesn't that mean you have to be scum?
  92. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Why is Catio scum though? and why only one? you think there are 2 mafia in a 24 player game?
  93. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    if you and void aren't scum then who is?
  94. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Tom And Jerry Lol GIF by myHQ
  95. R

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    GrumpyCat said:
    Nice try.

    ut seriously you are either scum here or a rare example of town I would actually misyeet, because just reading your mental loops and hoops makes entire thread dumber.
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    what are these loops and hoops?
  96. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    Vote: GrumpyCat
  97. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    i guess BN is my dark horse candidate. So maybe like grumpy-void-vesper-bn are my 4 today
  98. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    good night, eh?
  99. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    It may be TV on my part but I have a hard time seeing void as not scum. I also think Vesper and GC are excellent options and that's where I'd like to go. today. My other thought is if Vesper is the 1x mass roleblocker and void is a dv or has the same role I had and gives ppl a vote then maybe it's best to vote GC to get rid of the unknown scum role.
  100. R

    Mafia 12 - 99 Friends Halloviolina Heist

    maybe it's late and my brain is half asleep but I don't understand what alot of that post means, Mazer.
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